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Panecea
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: Supernatural References |
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| Is it me or does there seem to be a lot more references to the supernatural in this series? So far we have had vampiric elderly, the next epsode involves witches, episode six references Lazarus (and possibly resurrection) and episode nine seems to be centred around vampires again. |
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Tegan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Supernatural References |
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| Panecea wrote: | | Is it me or does there seem to be a lot more references to the supernatural in this series? So far we have had vampiric elderly, the next epsode involves witches, episode six references Lazarus (and possibly resurrection) and episode nine seems to be centred around vampires again. |
Yes, but there's always a scientific explanation for the "mystery", and a plausible (given that it's a SF universe) reason as to why the phenomenon became a myth.
If It Wasn't For Those Meddling Teenagers.   |
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Panecea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| My question was posed from a creative point of view, I just find it interesting that the writers have focused on this material. I actuallly like what their doing with this series. Maybe it is a clue. |
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Tegan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Panecea wrote: | | My question was posed from a creative point of view, I just find it interesting that the writers have focused on this material. I actuallly like what their doing with this series. Maybe it is a clue. |
If it's being used in any way as a story arc, my guess would be more red herring than clue.
The Saxon thing has become the obvious "Bad Wolf" of series 3, but just what does it lead to? |
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Greg
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According to some people (highlight below to see):
'Mister Saxon' in an anagram for 'Master No. Six' |
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Panecea
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Seems a bit far fetched Greg; though it is a possibilty. If so, Russell certainly has a soft spot for anagrams. I have heard a rumour myself he will be playing both roles (as in the case of Romana and Princess Astra).Please highlight to continue...
This hypothesis would fit with the previous idea that The Professor was incarnation number five |
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Tegan
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The most significant dialogue in the show, if I'm not wrong, and I am not often wrong  was in the hospital when Martha asks The Doctor;
"Have you got a brother?"
The Doctor replies;
"No. Not any more. Just me."
John Simm anyone? |
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Greg
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Tegan wrote: | The most significant dialogue in the show, if I'm not wrong, and I am not often wrong was in the hospital when Martha asks The Doctor;
"Have you got a brother?"
The Doctor replies;
"No. Not any more. Just me."
John Simm anyone? |
Yep. I noted that line as my second favourite piece of dialogue in Smith and Jone, because it may be a hint of something, or uit may simply a throwaway piece of dialogue. Time will tell! |
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Greg
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| Panecea wrote: | | Seems a bit far fetched Greg |
I did note that some people were saying it. I'm not one of them, but I figured it was worth a minor bit of concealment just in case they were right... |
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Panecea
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Apologies. My comment was not directed at you Greg, but the people that have that view.
Tegan, do you recall that during the Pertwee era, the writers were planning to write an episode in which the Doctor and his alter ego were revealed to be brothers? Unfortunately, a car crash in Turkey prevented that from happening.
Perhaps, the Doctors comment was a reference to that. On the other hand, it may simply be another passing reference to the fact that the Doctor had a family. |
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Tegan
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| Panecea wrote: |
Tegan, do you recall that during the Pertwee era, the writers were planning to write an episode in which the Doctor and his alter ego were revealed to be brothers? Unfortunately, a car crash in Turkey prevented that from happening.
Perhaps, the Doctors comment was a reference to that. On the other hand, it may simply be another passing reference to the fact that the Doctor had a family. |
Yes I do remember the rumours. That's exactly what I thought when I heard it.
So far we have "I was a father once", and now the reference to no longer having a brother.
At least we can be sure that if The Doctor does have a family, they couldn't possibly be as annoying as, say, Rose's!
Oh, and a PS. Do you think that Martha's choice of (almost) purple or lavander clothing is an homage to... someone not a million miles from here?
It's too red by the way, much too bold. |
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SharazJek
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| Panecea wrote: | | Seems a bit far fetched Greg; though it is a possibilty. If so, Russell certainly has a soft spot for anagrams. I have heard a rumour myself he will be playing both roles (as in the case of Romana and Princess Astra).Please highlight to continue... |
I don't think it's far-fetched at all. Outpost Gallifrey has cast listings for the entire series 3. Have a look at the character John Simms plays in episodes 12 & 13. |
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Greg
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The problem isn't the cast of the new series, it is that(highlight again!):
The Master, as played by Peter Pratt in The Deadly Assassin is supposed to be at the end of this final life - that is, he's the Master Number Thirteen. He's had at least two more lives after that (Ainley and Roberts), so this would be Master No Sixteen...
Just counting actors, we've got Delgado, Pratt, Beevers, Ainley, Roberts and (allegedly) Jacobi before we get to Simms, so that Master No Seven...
In any case, why would the Master choose an anagram name that declares him number 6? (That might make a magnificant in-joke if they cast Patrick McGoohan in the role...)
It doesn't make sense from a narrative or factual perspective! |
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Panecea
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| Agreed. The Master has died too many times for that to make sense. |
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