Doctor Who Club of Australia

mortigitempo · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 30

to elaborate on the word 'terrible' i will say that basically this story summarised the entire series.

Series 3 was brillant, fantastic, clever, witty,
Series 1 was pretty good
Series 2 was mediocre
Series 4 was the biggest load of turd I've ever seen on TV. With the exception of 'Midnight', it was on par with Power Rangers.

Greg · Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

Christos · Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 17

I love the fact we're calling the human doctor "10.5".

On some other forums, they're calling him the doctor sex toy... which I think is more appropriate.

DrJones · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:

Actually, I think I figured out what really irked me with that 10.5 and Rose kissing scene. It was the fact that the other Timelord Doctor was looking on. Now that was just kinda weird. Perhaps they could have saved the beach kissy scene with 10.5 until the Tardis took off with the Timelord Doctor leaving 10.5 to have his quiet word in Rose's ear. Then at least the scene may have been mildly more romantic or at least tolerable. It did feel like he was leaving her a "sex toy" version of himself with the way in which it was done Confused

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montypython · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject:

You should see the uncut version of the kiss! Type "doctor and rose kiss long version" into YouTube and it's the first result.

DrJones · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject:

Oh yes! I have heard about that! Apparently it is quite long, but people speculate that it was cut as not all Doctor Who fans were overly wrapped in the romance side of it. But it is obviously a hit on Youtube Laughing

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But in the end result, I just found it weird that his other self was looking on. That just really put me off the Rose and Doctor romance thing completely then. I don't think that it was very well done. When he (Eccleston's Doctor) kissed her in the finale of series 1 it was okay, as the context was different etc, but after that, it should have been left well alone.

charlie · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject:

wow that just went on and on.

montypython · Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:

FredDag · Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 70

I totally agree with montypython, the Doctor kissing Rose wasn't our pure Time Lord alien Doctor. The kissing Doctor half human and it was the human side of him that wanted to show his emotions to Rose.

I think this is great because it show's that our Doctor, the real Doctor is an alien and doesn't posses the emotions like us humans do. It proved that he and Rose could of never had a "conventional" relationship matter how close they were.

montypython · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject:

Just found out that there's a deleted scene. It shows the Doctor giving 10.5 a piece of the TARDIS, so that he can grow his own and he and Rose can still travel in it.

I'm not sure that I like this ending. While it's a lot happier, I think I actually prefer the tragedy that Rose and the Doctor get to be together, but don't get to see the universe. Besides, TARDIS travels would mean they're still not totally safe - they could still get captured/killed/abandoned - which sort of defeats the purpose of leaving them together in the first place.

montypython · Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject:

Could this episode be hinted towards in the song The Stowaway?

"I wonder how his journey ends..."

Speckled Jim · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Auckland, Un Zud

At the risk of sounding like a grump, I couldn't give a tinker's cuss about the whole Doctor loves Rose loves Doctor II, will they/won't they, is it true love, can they ever be happy together/apart/occasionally bumping into one another tosh. Can we get back to having some sci-fi adventure please?

DrJones · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject:

Theta Sigma · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 4428

Someone gave me an article about Billie in Doctor Who from the Melbourne Herald Sun dated September 3 2008.

In the article it says that she "left the show in late 2006 [in Doomsday] and a return does not seem on the cards."

By this time, ABC1 had already shown Rose's cameo episodes in Partners In Crime & The Poison Sky. It was before the ABC1 broadcast of her appearances in the last four episodes of the 2008 season.

So one could easily think that the writer of the article did not know, did not noticed or had forgotten about her cameos in the two aforementioned episodes.

However things are confusing later on in the article as the writer wrote, "Rose was last seen heading off into the sunset with a clone of the timelord (sic)" and that description is not from Doomsday. It came from Journey's End which would not be on ABC1 until September 28 some three and a half weeks after the article was published. A confusion between Doomsday & Journey's End and a big spoiler for whoever read it at the time.

Greg · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject:

I was pleased by the lack of a 'What. What? WHAT!' at the end of this episode, however The Writer's Tale tells us that one was written - and that Davies was talked out of using it.

montypython · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

Sulp Niar · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject:

Theta Sigma · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 4428

Sulp Niar · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:55 am Post subject:

Well, he didn't mention the similarity between the ending of 'Doomsday' and His Dark Materials! Razz

Anyway, Billie Piper was in the TV adaptation of Sally Lockhart, so that's another lovely little link right there.