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Greg
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| Ace wrote: | | As far as I know Michael Gough is still alive, so they could do a Celestial Toymaker story I suppose. The character was a very good villain and he's been in a couple of novels since the tv story. I just read the Target novel for Celestial Toymaker and like most of the Target novels, the story is very good. |
Micahel Gough has officially retired from acting, and rarely takes on any extra work. It has been suggested that the former Mrs Gough (better known to us Anneke Wills) might be recruited to convince him a BF would be a good idea... |
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hallhotdogma
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Wester wrote: | | T.S - were they really planning a sequel to Celestial Toymaker? That would have been great to see. Wonder if they still could? |
It was planned as one of the season 23 stories. If my toilet reading serves me correctly, there was
The Nightmare Fair - Graham Williams - set in Blackpool w/The Toymaker who I think was renamed the Mandarin for this story(?)
Mission to Magnus - Philip Martin - Definately had Sil in it was this the one with the Ice Warriors?
Made in Singapore - Robert Holmes - featuring the Autons in Singapore
The Ultimate Evil - Wally someone...looks it Up Wally K. Daly...
Here's some links
The Nightmare Fair
The Ultimate Evil
Mission To Magnus |
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Ace
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Ah yes, but they were never made, so do they count???
Nightmare Fair did turn up as a novel though and I'd forgotten about that one 
An audio with the Toymaker would be awesome. It would be great if he did one. After all, he did Batman, surely he can do something more worthwhile like Doctor Who? *grin*
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Theta Sigma
Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Wester wrote: | | T.S - were they really planning a sequel to Celestial Toymaker? That would have been great to see. Wonder if they still could? |
To add to what already been said about Nightmare Fair is that it has been made into a fan produced audio made for charity from Argolis Productions in which the Doctor, Peri and the Toymaker were recast.
That's all I can say about it since the link to Argolis is not working anymore. I personally haven't got it given money circumstances.
Now back on Arc of Infinity.
The Doctor does not seem enthuasiastic having Tegan back on board.
I can only speculate the reason why Omega was recast to Ian Collier instead of original actor Stephen Thorne was entirely deliberate as Thorne's very presence would give away immediately Omega's presence in the story.
Here is a funny fact Ian Collier had previously appeared in Doctor Who in the 1972 story The Time Monster which happened to be the story that preceded The Three Doctors (Omega's introductory story) in transmission.
Leonard Sachs I have to say is the most dullest of all the Borusas. |
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meglos
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: Perth
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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What was with bumping into the guy with the fruit. I thought I was watching the Goodies or something. Maybe the Doctor could have slipped on a banana peel  |
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Ace
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Does fan stuff count? I mean, I've yet to see anything actually remotely good,
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ark76
Joined: 14 Aug 2005
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Location: Canberra
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with all the criticisms of Arc of Infinity so far, but on the plus side, episode 4 contained my all time fave moment in Doctor Who.
Its the moment where Omega was initially on the run (before his anti-matter shield starts to break down), and he stops to watch a barrel organ. A small kid barges into him, and Omega glowers at him, before breaking into a smile and continuing to watch the organ - a glimpse of what Omega might have been like if it hadn't been for the the initial accident that trapped him in the black hole (and perhaps Omega could have been like this again if his transfer had been successful).
A rare moment where Dr Who goes beyond the good guy/villain stereotype. |
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Kerr Avon
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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I don't know how I'd describe my personal vision of what Gallifrey should be like, but I'm always a little disappointed when I watch it on screen (or indeed when I listen to it on audio, The Apocalypse Element being one of my least favourite BF productions*)
it has been said before but why does Borusa keep regenerating into old bodies?
a not-so-great (though not terrible) beginning to a season I have fond memories of...
*hopefully I'll get more from their Gallifrey series which I'll be starting on soon... |
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SharazJek
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Ace wrote: | Does fan stuff count? I mean, I've yet to see anything actually remotely good,
Ace |
I have this, and (although I haven't yet listened to it right through) the guy who plays the 6th Doctor does a pretty good Colin Baker impersonation. |
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SharazJek
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Does anyone have a theory as to why the Omega in this story is so different to the omega in the 3 docs?
ie. This one has a physical body whereas the original only had and insubstantial 'will' left. To quote the Doctor, under the mask 'there was nothing left of him'. |
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Greg
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| SharazJek wrote: | Does anyone have a theory as to why the Omega in this story is so different to the omega in the 3 docs?
ie. This one has a physical body whereas the original only had and insubstantial 'will' left. To quote the Doctor, under the mask 'there was nothing left of him'. |
The Doctor comments that the Ergon is 'one of Omega's less successful attempts at psychosynthesis', so presumably his temporary body in The Arc of Infinity as well as the hunting organism and the gel-guards in The Three Doctors are more examples of this particular talent of Omega's. |
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Wester
Joined: 04 Aug 2005
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Location: Brisbane
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Greg, well done - I cant think of anything wrong with your theory. So I think it MUST be correct! |
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Tom N.
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I've seen Arc of Infinity bagged a fair bit on other sites, but I actually didn't mind it. Omega looked way cool and I loved Peter Davson's brief dual role. I also enjoyed seeing Colin Baker strut around the place with his elaborate helmet, trying to steal Davison's job, and generally looking pompous. |
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Ickabod
Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | As far as I know Michael Gough is still alive, so they could do a Celestial Toymaker story I suppose. |
l'm glad Michael Gough is still alive.....but to go off on a different track.......why didn't he keep his role in the new batman movie as Alfred????.......he was good as Alfred........ |
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SharazJek
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ickabod wrote: |
l'm glad Michael Gough is still alive.....but to go off on a different track.......why didn't he keep his role in the new batman movie as Alfred????.......he was good as Alfred........ |
Warner Bros are rebooting the Batman franchise, so I gather that means a full recast with no connection to the previous movies. |
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Ickabod
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Warner Bros are rebooting the Batman franchise, so I gather that means a full recast with no connection to the previous movies. |
thank you SharazJek |
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