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Tooth and Claw (broadcast 22/7 in Australia)
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How do you rate Tooth and Claw?
Excellent
23%
 23%  [ 6 ]
Very Good
57%
 57%  [ 15 ]
Good
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Fair
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Turkey
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 26

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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 405
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montypython wrote:
I loved it! Tennant's Scottish accent was so funny, as was Rose's attempt to put one on. I didn't really like her outfit though, it looked a bit childish.


I'm sure David would be amused by your thinking his accent was funny. He's Scottish!

He puts on a funny accent to play general roles.

From IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/

Date of birth (location)
18 April 1971
Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland, UK

BTW did you notice he introduced himself as Dr James (Jamie) McCrimmon to Queen Victoria?
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Darth Sidious



Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but I thought it was rubbish. A big let down from New Earth IMHO.
Didn't care much for Queen Vic either, dunno if it was the writing or the actress but she just came across as sour and stale.
It just could have been done so much better IMO. It did appear rushed from my point of view.
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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 405
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darth Sidious wrote:

Didn't care much for Queen Vic either, dunno if it was the writing or the actress but she just came across as sour and stale.


You want maybe Queen Vicki to be a ditzy blonde?

Sour and Stale are a couple of her official titles, along with "Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith and Empress of India"

I thought the portrayal was spot on personally.
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SharazJek



Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Posts: 902
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone else cotton on to the line the Doctor was singing in the post title scenes?

"It's good to be a lunatic"

Coincidence?

Doubt it....
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Sulp Niar



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
Posts: 776
Location: Where You Only Live Thirteen Times

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a word, wow. I'm not a disliker of Russell's work, but up until now he hasn't scripted the standout episodes. But Tooth and Claw has to be the best episode since The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances.

I have high hopes for the rest of the season now... yay!

Incidentally, the portrayal of Queen Victoria was indeed spot on. If you read Empire of Death, there's another example of her spirituality and awareness of the supernatural... and the scene where she knighted then banished them seemed perfect for the Queen.

One question though, what happened to the Monks? Why did they run away if they wanted the Queen dead?

Oh, and how on Earth can the royal family be werewolves? All to facilitate a cheap shot... ah well, I'll overlook it in the general triumph of the episode.
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Darth Sidious



Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tegan wrote:
Darth Sidious wrote:

Didn't care much for Queen Vic either, dunno if it was the writing or the actress but she just came across as sour and stale.


You want maybe Queen Vicki to be a ditzy blonde?

Sour and Stale are a couple of her official titles, along with "Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith and Empress of India"

I thought the portrayal was spot on personally.


No, but I would have liked her to have a bit more 'personality' ...
Besides Dr Who has never portrayed historical figures accuratley.
I'm pretty sure Nero in the Romans is nothing like his real life namesake.
I know someone who has a 7 year old and she was really bored with this episode.
New Earth was far more entertaining and accessabile for kids IMHO>
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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 405
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darth Sidious wrote:
Tegan wrote:

You want maybe Queen Vicki to be a ditzy blonde?

I thought the portrayal was spot on personally.


No, but I would have liked her to have a bit more 'personality' ...
Besides Dr Who has never portrayed historical figures accuratley.
I'm pretty sure Nero in the Romans is nothing like his real life namesake.
I know someone who has a 7 year old and she was really bored with this episode.
New Earth was far more entertaining and accessabile for kids IMHO>


Fair point. Sour and glum is however a 'personality' after all. I should know about that!

The idea of a TV show is to entertain after all. However, being a TV show, the producers and writers are going to use the general public perception of an historical character.

Queen Victoria is almost always portrayed as the dour old, post Albert dowager version. At least with Vicki there are some reasonably good contemporary accounts of her style, as well as a huge number of portraits.

Nero on the other hand has had his image tarnished for well over a thousand years. He's more of a quess than Vicki will be for anoyher thousand years.
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Dougy



Joined: 26 Jul 2005
Posts: 255
Location: Newcastle, NSW, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, FREAKY! I loved this episode and I think it was the scariest WHO ep I've seen. The scene where they are all in the "mistletoe room" listening to the footsteps of the Werewolf - sends shivers down my spine it does!
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