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arturo



Joined: 03 Jul 2005
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Location: Toowoomba

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Rani to return Reply with quote

Latest rumour for series three is that The Rani is to Return played by Zoe someoneorother from footballers wives. This has been kicked about Og forums and reported in The Sun, which broke rumours of SJS's return and the Dalek/Cyberman war for series two.

Do we believe it????

More importantly.....do we want it?????????????
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Kerr Avon



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 478

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they're bringing back an "evil" renegade timelord let it be The Master. as played by Alan Rickman.
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Beatly



Joined: 24 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd prefer neither, but of the two, the Rani would be better. The Master is a tired old cliche who's had far too many canonical deaths to be able to cheat it yet again. The Rani, on the other hand, is a tired old cliche who wasn't used as much and presumably had to wait for the time war to meet her absolute final end.
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Greg
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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Location: Canberra

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Rani to return Reply with quote

arturo wrote:
Latest rumour for series three is that the Rani is to return played by Zoe someoneorother from Footballers Wives. This has been kicked about Og forums and reported in The Sun, which broke rumours of SJS's return and the Dalek/Cyberman war for series two.


That'll be the same The Sun who falsely took the credit for the Daleks return to the new series and reported two or three times that Billie Piper was leaving when she was continuing on with the series. All reporting (and I use the term loosely) from that source is suspect. They got some stories right, but the law of averages dictates that must happen eventually.

However, the Rani is perhaps too obscure a figure to make rumours about, so maybe it's true. Or maybe some fan has 'leaked' the 'news' for a bit of fun.

Grain of salt and patience is the best way to handle rumours.
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Beatly



Joined: 24 Jul 2005
Posts: 375
Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus, of course, one of the Sun's primary sources for Doctor Who news, as well as the BBC themselves and the actors concerned, is Outpost Gallifrey. A rumour started on there can get out of hand and appear in the papers as fact, and then gets reported back to OG as such, confirming itself.
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Suketeh_the Destroyer



Joined: 22 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be great to see 'The Rani' again in a new incarnation of course! I vote Yes!!
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Astral Omega



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 84

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, let me just spread some rumors as seen on http://www.doctorwho-online.com/

Latest Rumours

The Doctor has a son?

News Dated: 10/8/2006

This is currently to be taken with a large pinch of salt, but the tabloid newspapers today, printed articles claiming a big shock is in store at the end of Series Three. Having hinted on being a grandfather in Series 2, The Doctor will apparantly reveal that he has a son in the Finale.

The news is also supposed to be a solution to the whole 'what happens to The Doctor after his 12th regeneration' question. Apparantly the son will take over the role of The Doctor.

Make of it what you wll, but DWO believe this to be a very red herring!

[Sources: DWO; Sky News - website]

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Return of The Rani?

News Dated: 3/8/2006

According to Thursday 3rd August's copy of The Sun newspaper; Footballer's Wive's star; Zoe Lucker is set to play The Rani in Series Three of Doctor Who. The Rani (originally played by Kate O Mara) was a female Timelord in the Classic Series, who appeared in two stories: The Mark of the Rani & Time and the Rani.

Below is the article in full:

Evil Zoe takes on Dr Who

By Colin Robertson

FOOTBALLERS’ Wives star Zoe Lucker is being lined up to play Doctor Who’s evil arch-enemy The Rani.

Show bosses are bringing back the terrible Time Lady, who was originally played by Kate O’Mara in the 1980s.

And sexy Zoe — superbitch Tanya Turner in racy ITV1 hit Footballers’ Wives — is a dead cert for the part.

An insider said: “The Rani was a classic character — pure evil. She’s ripe for a return and Zoe is perfect to play her. There are similarities between The Rani and bitchy Tanya.”

The Rani is a time traveller like the Doctor but channels her energy into evil — a scientific genius who creates monsters.

TV sex symbol O’Mara — who turns 67 next Thursday — featured as The Rani in two special serials in the late ’80s and early ’90s.

She also played Joan Collins’s sister Caress in US drama Dynasty and was on our screens in Five soap Family Affairs last year.

Doctor Who chiefs are writing the third in the revamped series of the BBC1 show and more classic characters could return.

The last series saw comebacks for the Cybermen, K-9 and Sarah Jane.

Is it coincidence that the 6th Doctor adventure The Mark of the Rani is due for release on DVD later this year?

More news as we get it...

[Sources: DWO; Paul Morries]



wow... i hope this is true

RANI RULES!!!

the question is, how?
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Astral Omega



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry about the spacing... i copied and pasted off the site
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Greg
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What problem with the spacing? (Yes, it's just one of the services we provide...)

The idea of the Doctor having a son is an old one - it was suggested by William Hartnell when he was playing the lead role. The idea was that the son would look exactly like his father (and, of course, be played by Hartnell) but be evil. Maybe the idea has come to fruition, 40 years later?
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Astral Omega



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 84

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! THAT WOULD BE SO COOL! and considering David Tennant Plays evil so well: (Barty crouch Jr Harry Potter Goblet of fire is soooo cool!) it would be awesome!
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Speckled Jim



Joined: 14 Jul 2006
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Location: Auckland, Un Zud

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who thought the Rani was the least convincing, most over-the-top comic-book style villain in the whole Dr Who ouevre? She was like Catwoman played by Roger Moore. A tight bodysuit, grey bangs and the occasional sneer don't make for a prize-winning nemesis. I guess the two stories she appeared in didn't help her cause, but still....
How long can the show's writers fall prey to this revivalist obsession? We need new ideas, new creatures ... remember the Pertwee/Baker era, when there were fresh, interesting aliens and enemies with just about every story!
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Davros



Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: Skaro

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speckled Jim wrote:
We need new ideas, new creatures ... remember the Pertwee/Baker era, when there were fresh, interesting aliens and enemies with just about every story!
Unfortunately, memories are all they are as the BBC destroyed most of them Sad
Jon & Tom were the best actors this show has seen, even though their series now look outdated, the stories still bet this modern day mega $$ special effect bonanza!!!
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Kerr Avon



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 478

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Patrick Troughton was probably the most accomplished actor to play the part, and I'm not sure Tom Baker acted at all, he merely played himself on screen.

but that's my opinion only, and we're all entitled to our own opinions Smile
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Speckled Jim



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerr Avon wrote:
I'm not sure Tom Baker acted at all, he merely played himself on screen.

but that's my opinion only, and we're all entitled to our own opinions Smile


Man, you're setting yourself up for a lynching!
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Kerr Avon



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 478

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not bothered by the opinion of anyone who can't accept my opinion.
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Sulp Niar



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
Posts: 738
Location: Where You Only Live Thirteen Times

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astral Omega wrote:
The news is also supposed to be a solution to the whole 'what happens to The Doctor after his 12th regeneration' question. Apparantly the son will take over the role of The Doctor.


*coughs and splutters*

You what?!

Dammit, someone's stolen my idea! Or more likely come up with it at the same time. *sigh* Ah well.
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Voc76



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure that Patrick was the most accomplished actor to play the part. I'd say he was probably the most successful serious actor to play it, but I'd say that Tom Baker whilst not a better actor played the part better whether he was being himself or not.
oh and DEAR GOD NO DON"T BRING THE RANI BACK!!!
According to Terrance Dicks the Third Doctor was the best at looking rueful.
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Kerr Avon



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 478

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"most accomplished actor" = "most successful serious actor"
or at least that's what I was getting at.
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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 402
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerr Avon wrote:
I think Patrick Troughton was probably the most accomplished actor to play the part, and I'm not sure Tom Baker acted at all, he merely played himself on screen.


While I agree that Patrick was a far more accomplished actor than Tom Baker and almost certainly the Doctor with the deepest acting resume, there's an argument that can be made for both Jon Pertwee and Colin Baker as actors.

Both Pertwee and Colin Baker have had roles in literally dozens of movies and TV shows, a huge amount of work on radio and on the stage from rep to serious stage work, and IMHO Baker is the definitive Big Finish Audio Doctor.

Patrick Troughton was the first Doctor I ever saw, and remains probably my favourite to this day. Your first is always the most memorable. Embarassed (Sorry Peter, you're a close second, Wink )

Kerr Avon wrote:
but that's my opinion only, and we're all entitled to our own opinions Smile


On the other hand, tacking this disclaimer on to any even remotely controversial statement is a poor attempt at a pre-emptive cop out "Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player" said just as the revolver is drawn from the holster in a Western bar room brawl scene.

[Ironic mode="on"] But that's just my opinion, so all other argument may now be demurely deflected. Razz [Ironic mode="off"]
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Kerr Avon



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it wasn't an attempt at a cop-out, it was an attempt at pre-empting the outcry which often follows any criticism of Tom Baker.

my statement was in response to the idea that Tom Baker could be considered the "best actor" this (or any) show had seen. What Tom does might be entertaining, but I don't think it is acting.

to draw a contemporary parallel - I like Jack Black. I see all his movies and I own most of them on DVD. I consider him to be very entertaining but he does not act - he is always the same character, whether in a movie or on stage with Tenacious D.

I also think Colin Baker is "the definitive Big Finish Audio Doctor" but I wasn't aware he was particularly well-known before he took the role - not compared with Davison who was well-established by his role in "All Creatures Great And Small". I know Colin Baker was in "Brothers" and I shouldn't dismiss it on the grounds that I've never seen it. Shame on me.
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