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Torchwood 1.3 'Ghost Machine' - 9:40 2/7/07 TEN
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What did you think of 'Ghost Machine'
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dave



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 605
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Torchwood 1.3 'Ghost Machine' - 9:40 2/7/07 TEN Reply with quote

One of the strongest impressions I'm left with after watching this episode is that there was a lot of filler in this episode: the elongated chase scenes, the firing range, etc. Despite that, I thought it was rather good.

It's interesting to see how the various members of the cast deal with the visions they see. Owen's choice at the end not to kill Morgan wasn't surprising, but it looked to me as though he had the murder weapon and might have been able to hand that over to police...had Morgan survived.

I think a device which shows possible futures is probably not very useful, a device which shows probable futures would be better, and one that show THE future would be something of a pandora's box. Wonder if we'll ever see it used again.

I find myself wishing once again that this show would stick to sci-fi, and not wander into the realms of fantasy, as it seems to do every episode so far. Emotions are energy? Electrochemical energy at the bridges of certain synapses perhaps. I guess it just goes hand in hand with the idea that orgasms are energy too, but I just dislike this stuff. Not that I dislike fantasy, I just like to keep it separate from my sci-fi.
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meglos



Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 660
Location: Perth

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved it. I thought the idea was a good one and brought to screen well. There was also enough twists and turns to keep me guessing. I'm not sure about Jacks speech at the end though, for me it wasa bit cringeworthy. Looking forward to the Cyberwoman next week.
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FredDag



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 69

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved this story too. Absolutely brilliant. Made me hungry for more episodes. This filming again was fantastic, the action sequences looked necessary and not too long and the characters worked well. I was hooked in from the start of this episode. It's great o have a decent show back on TV and I'm glad it's differnt from Dr Who as well, otherwise I'd rather that another 13 episodes of Dr Who to be made.

I'm so looking forward to next weeks Torchwoord with the Cybermen and an adult spin on them. Looks a genuinly scary. Looks like it's going to be a lot more graphic then a Dr Who cyberman story.
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montypython



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 691
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, just want to ask how people are seeing Torchwood. Is it on pay TV or something? If so, that sucks for us poor people.
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SharazJek



Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Posts: 892
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we told you we'd have to spike your drink and wipe your memory of it afterwards.
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Amano07



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the magic of the interweb....
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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montypython wrote:
Okay, just want to ask how people are seeing Torchwood. Is it on pay TV or something? If so, that sucks for us poor people.


Don't you have your own personal TARDIS? I thought everyone traveled by TARDIS. Smile
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phase5



Joined: 07 May 2006
Posts: 246

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A better episode than the first two.

The idea of highly emotional events leaving "memories" or "recordings" in the surrounds was also used in "The Stones Tapes" back in the 70s. (Available on DVD last I checked). So while not an original idea it's still a good one.

The story would have been more effective if the writer had managed to link Owens use of the date rape "aftershave" (ep.01) with his viewing of a rape and murder and the effect this has on him as he realises what he has done in the past and how it impacts on others lives.

This would have made a better ep.02 with Gwen getting a feel for the job, receiving training and learning her way around the Torchwood base.
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dave



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found out yesterday that the elderly gent in this episode was played by Gareth Thomas, the man who played Roj Blake in Blake's 7.
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Tom N.



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 144
Location: Sydney, NSW

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave wrote:
Found out yesterday that the elderly gent in this episode was played by Gareth Thomas, the man who played Roj Blake in Blake's 7.

And the older Tom Flanagan was played by John Normington, of Caves of Androzani and Happiness Patrol fame. Smile
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Theta Sigma



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 4099

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave wrote:
Found out yesterday that the elderly gent in this episode was played by Gareth Thomas, the man who played Roj Blake in Blake's 7.

I can't believe you didn't recognise him before. Smile After appearing in Paul McGann's Big Finish audio debut Storm Warning and in Dalek Empire, Gareth Thomas finally appears in a televised episode set in the Whoniverse. Very impressed and surprised with him in the Welsh accent.

However having recently seen this episode I have to say that I did not realise that old Tom Flanagan was played by John Normington until I read the synopsis in the Doctor Who Reference Guide. Quite a contrast to him being the evil Morgus in Caves of Androzani. Now he is a lovely old man.

Also liked the scene between Jack and Gwen in the firing range.
The script by Helen Raynor is very good in conveying through the Ghost Machine of the title the impact of emotions whether it would be harmonious as shown with Gwen seeing the happy memories that she had with Rhys or the tragedy from the crime that Ed Morgan had committed.
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Odnet



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 61
Location: Mudgee

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again I found this disappointing. It had a lot of potential, but it just ending up being too predictable and a little dull. I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm viewing it on Channel Ten and the ads are just ruining the flow for me. But it all seems a bit average.
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montypython



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This didn't really do anything for me. I felt the scenes took too long (especially the shooting scene - you'd think a cop would have some idea how to manage a gun!) and it just wasn't as interesting as the others. I also found it odd how Tom Flanagan just blabbed his life story to Gwen. But I did like seeing a different side of Owen, and it was really shocking how Edwin died.
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Amano07



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montypython wrote:
I felt the scenes took too long (especially the shooting scene - you'd think a cop would have some idea how to manage a gun!)


i dont think police of Gwen's rank get guns ......
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Tegan



Joined: 16 Apr 2006
Posts: 399
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montypython wrote:
I felt the scenes took too long (especially the shooting scene - you'd think a cop would have some idea how to manage a gun!)


They're in Cymru boyo! All they need is to throw leeks at one another.

Not every police officer in Britain is issued with firearms. If I'm right it would be fewer than half.
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montypython



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tegan wrote:
montypython wrote:
I felt the scenes took too long (especially the shooting scene - you'd think a cop would have some idea how to manage a gun!)


They're in Cymru boyo! All they need is to throw leeks at one another.

Not every police officer in Britain is issued with firearms. If I'm right it would be fewer than half.

Yeah, my dad told me they've got special squads to handle guns.
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Ickabod



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 504
Location: far far away

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

montypython wrote:
Okay, just want to ask how people are seeing Torchwood. Is it on pay TV or something? If so, that sucks for us poor people.


isn't it also on free to air on channel 10....
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Ickabod



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Posts: 504
Location: far far away

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a lot of bobbies only have a stick....foot patrol etc., and I'm with Theta...I liked that scene with the firing range Laughing Theta is a mind of knowledge....
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Theta Sigma



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 4099

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.

Torchwood has its second fall in the ratings with the screening of Ghost Machine.

From Phantom at knowfirst.info in Sydney, Ghost Machine got ratings of 774000 down from 895000 for Day One.
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montypython



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ickabod wrote:
montypython wrote:
Okay, just want to ask how people are seeing Torchwood. Is it on pay TV or something? If so, that sucks for us poor people.


isn't it also on free to air on channel 10....

If you'll notice, I posted that original message months ago, when it wasn't on 10.
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