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phase5



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
For those who did not see Spicks & Specks last night, the episode featured a "name that tune" segment played on violins, and the answer to one was "the Doctor Who Theme". In a coincidence that was amazing the answer to one of the "fill in the missing word in this song title" the answer was "Rose"!

Obviously the question writers at S&S are big Doctor Who fans. etc, etc, tribute.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I browsed over an issue of Q recently and Matt Bellamy of Muse said the greatest thing that came out of the 80s was his "Dalek keyboard", which apparently was a big feature of their live acts. However it's now "gone to the Doctor Who warehouse in the sky" apparently.

I'm going to have to watch their Hullabaloo DVD again just to see if it's true (then again, I have no idea what a Dalek keyboard's supposed to look like. How can they play with those plungers anyway? We already know they're terrible at hopscotch).
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montypython



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just turned on The ConTest, and saw this question:

What is the name of the robot regular in Futurama?

A: Robbie
B: Bender
C: K9
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Tom N.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
More Spicks and Specks:

Last night, "Doctorin' the TARDIS" by the Timelords (aka the KLF) was used as part of the 'Malvern Stars on 45' segment.

That's two Who references in two weeks... subliminal advertising for Series 3, perhaps? Razz: wink:
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
montypython wrote:
I just turned on The ConTest, and saw this question:

What is the name of the robot regular in Futurama?

A: Robbie
B: Bender
C: K9

I watched ConTest last night but I could have sworn the option for C was something other than K9. Either we were both seeing something different or we have different memory of it.
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montypython



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Theta Sigma wrote:
montypython wrote:
I just turned on The ConTest, and saw this question:

What is the name of the robot regular in Futurama?

A: Robbie
B: Bender
C: K9

I watched ConTest last night but I could have sworn the option for C was something other than K9. Either we were both seeing something different or we have different memory of it.

Sorry, but I'm 100% positive it was K9. I know because I squealed, just like I always do when there's a Who reference. Or when I get reviews for my fanfics.
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Tom N.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Theta Sigma wrote:
montypython wrote:
I just turned on The ConTest, and saw this question:

What is the name of the robot regular in Futurama?

A: Robbie
B: Bender
C: K9

I watched ConTest last night but I could have sworn the option for C was something other than K9. Either we were both seeing something different or we have different memory of it.

I saw it as well, and it ws definitely K9.
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK if you both say so.

I think why I did not noticed it is that my niece who was sitting beside me distracted me by asking me what the answer was, that I probably did not concentrate on what C was
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Theta Sigma wrote:
Tonight's episode of Supernatural, Episode 11 of season 2 on 10 at 8:30pm is the first of two episodes that should be of interest to us Who fans based on remarks made at the Supernatural thread.
The other episode is the one that comes after it, however that won't be on next week as a repeat will be shown instead.

Supernatural thread:
http://drwhoaustralia.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=1345

The other Supernatural episode will be on tomorrow night Monday April 23 at 8:30pm on 10.
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For those who did not see the Supernatural episode this week, a Cyberman appeared courtesy of a magazine cover.

From TV.com:
"Magazine Cover
The cover of the Fortean Times that Resnick shows the Winchesters has a picture of a Cyberman from the newest Doctor Who series, and the headline "Birth of the Cybermen.""

Despite the word Cybermen on the magazine cover, Resnick called them mandroids and he thinks they were made by the Chinese!

I think I mentioned earlier the documentary series Sci Fi Saved My Life on Discovery Channel which looks at how certain sci fi films have an impact on reality and two of these episodes had Doctor Who references. Well in the episode about Stargate shown for the first time the previous Saturday April 21, it featured a picture of two TARDISes with one coming out of one wormhole and another TARDIS coming into another wormhole. This was shown after the narrator asked how wormhole travel was possible. People who haven't seen it can still catch it as it will repeated on Friday April 27 at 1:30pm and Saturday April 28 at 7:30am.
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doctor Who got mentioned briefly and on a rare occasion so was Doctor Who creator Sydney Newman in The Einstein Factor last night.

Sydney Newman got mentioned first when contestant Diane Hesse whose special subject was The Avengers, which Newman also created, was asked who created The Avengers. However she passed on the question and hence Peter Berner mentioned his name.*
Then in the bonus true/false question state that there were no surviving episodes of season 1. It was here that one of the Brains Trust, Tony Moclair mentioned that Doctor Who had missing episodes and were even tracked down to New Zealand (undoubtedly a reference to the discovery of The Crusade Part 1 - The Lion there in 1999).

So for those still interested in that Avengers question, the answer was false. As Peter Berner stated to the audience there are now two and a bit episodes left from that season.

Also interesting but not about Doctor Who itself but about guest star Honor Blackman who was Cathy Gale in The Avengers. In the final round, Peter Berner asked that after Honor was seen in the James Bond film Goldfinger, the Avengers episode that was shown afterwards had John Steed reading out a Christmas card from Mrs Gale from where. The answer was Fort Knox which was also featured in Goldfinger.

Honor had left the Avengers to work on Goldfinger. I actually saw that Avengers episodes years ago but didn't know until The Einstein Factor last night that was meant to be an in-joke of her joining the Goldfinger cast.

*Thank goodness the answer wasn't Brian Clemens, a mistake that a lot of people have made in thinking that he was The Avengers creator.
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montypython



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In South Park last night Cartman was stranded in the future, and he had a talking robotic dog called "K-10".
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phase5



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
montypython wrote:
In South Park last night Cartman was stranded in the future, and he had a talking robotic dog called "K-10".


To be honest I don't think it was a "Who" reference. I actually wonder how many americians, especially the writers of South Park, even know what "Doctor Who" is.

The episode was a reference to the 80s "Buck Roger In The 25th Century" tv series with Gil Gerrad, right down to the open title sequence, the music, the costumes, and the spacecraft design.

The robot dog was more a take off of the shows original robot companion "Twinky"; (or whatever it's name was, it's been a while since I saw the series); rather than "K-9". And the whole "K-9" or "K-10" joke is not exactly an original created by "who" writers.

Meanwhile, if you have an incredible imagination, in last week episode the kidnapping of Eric Cartman was extremely similiar to a sequence in "Resurrection"; thus; (all together now); the writers must be BIG "Dr.Who" fans. (But probably not). And one group looked a lot like Thals. (Whatever happened to the Thals anyway?).
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charlie



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
phase5 wrote:
I actually wonder how many americians, especially the writers of South Park, even know what "Doctor Who" is.


I know the writers of the classic simpsons know about DW as Tom Baker is one of the reps of TV when sideshow bob etc.

And ebay has a reasonable DW book market so it must have a reasonable fame. Also their sci fi channel has new who.
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phase5



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
charlie wrote:
phase5 wrote:
I actually wonder how many americians, especially the writers of South Park, even know what "Doctor Who" is.


I know the writers of the classic simpsons know about DW as Tom Baker is one of the reps of TV when sideshow bob etc.

And ebay has a reasonable DW book market so it must have a reasonable fame. Also their sci fi channel has new who.


The writers of "The Simpsons"; (or is it just Matt Groeing?), obvious do have a pretty good background knowledge of SF, based on all their SF references, not just those to Toms Who.

I suppose we'll never know for sure unless we take a poll how many americians have heard of the show.

I'm sure it's known within the SF community, but after seeing "The Chaser" last week, with Americians believing Mount Rushmore was actually in Australia, you have to wonder.

One measurement I've used in the past is how often there's a story on the show in a americian SF magazine like "Starlog". In the 354 issues I have they are few and far between, the most appearing just recently with the new series.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The weird thing about that is, I've heard them mention Star Trek so many times in the commentaries - never Doctor Who. Well, I'll have to wait til I see the commentary where Tom's in it, I spose.
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Greg
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
phase5 wrote:
(Whatever happened to the Thals anyway?).


Not a lot, really. There's very little information about the THals around.

On TV, they appeared in The Daleks, at the end of which it looked like the Daleks were defeated by the TARDIS crew aided by the Daleks' hereditary enemies, the Thals.

They next appeared in Planet of the Daleks. We learn a few things here: they still are based on Skaro, they have comparatively recently discovered spaceflight, and they are still at war with the Daleks. Interestingly, it's what isn't said that may be more interesting: the Daleks have a large army based on Spiridon and are manipulating the Earth and Draconian space empires into a war. It appears that the Daleks technology is ahead of that of the Thals, which leads to the question of how the Thals are still alive on Skaro is the Daleks live there.

A fan theory on this was published in The Discontinuity Guide, which suggested that Daleks discovered spaceflight prior to The Daleks and left Skaro in large numbers. All the Daleks remaining on Skaro lived in the Dalek city, and were killed in the climax of that story. In the meantime, the space-faring Daleks became a force to be reckoned with and the Thals had sole control of Skaro. Eventually, they too discovered space flight and resumed their conflict with the Daleks.

At some point, the Daleks re-captured Skaro (shown as a place they were living in The Chase, The Evil of the Daleks, Remembrance of the Daleks and Doctor Who [the TVM]). However, Skaro seems largely abandoned by either Daleks and Thals in Destiny of the Daleks, when the Daleks return to their home planet to recover their creator. Presumably either the Daleks wiped the Thals out, or the Thals abandoned Skaro, possibly during an armed conflict with the Daleks - but there's no actual evidence of this.

The only other TV Thal appearance is Genesis of the Daleks, which is set earlier in history than all the rest and sheds no light on what happened to the Thal race.

The Big Finish audio series I, Davros looks back even further than Genesis, and reveals nothing of the Thals future, but something of their past. Thals are an entirely different race to Daleks - Daleks evolved from a clam-like species on Skaro, while Thals were descended from the equivalent of cats (if I recall correctly!). There were other intelligent races on Skaro, including the Dals, but they had been wiped out as the Thal/Kaled war progressed through its thousands of years.

(This origin of the Thals - and the Daleks, for that matter - is entirely at odds with the story We are the Daleks, published in the Radio Times Doctor Who 10th Anniversary Special, which states that both Skarosian races were descended form humans, transported to Skaro in an experiment by an alien race called the Halldons.)

Of more interest to the question of what happened next to the Thals is the novel War of the Daleks. Not a popular novel with many fans, its purpose seems to be to retroactively rewrite Dalek history, particularly Remembrance of the Daleks. By this time, the previously peaceful Thals are now a war-like race (Lance Parkin's Ahistory dates Planet in 2540 and War in 4693, so it isn't an overnight change). Both Thals and Daleks, war-like races with interstellar travel, are somehow both holding areas of Skaro. The Doctor tries to redirect the Thals back towards peace, blaming himself for redirecting them towards violence back in The Daleks. Whether this transition is possible while they continue to be at war with the Daleks isn't stared in the novel.

Two other appearances by the Thals should simply be noted, as they don't tell us much: in the audio The Mutant Phase, there are some Thals is a timeline generated by a paradox; the paradox is resolved and the timeline ceases to exist, so the only information is Thals is about their lives in a timeline that never happened. The Thals also appeared in the Telos novella The Dalek Factor. These Thals were soldiers who were seeking out Dalek forces to fight, which place them in any number of points in Thal history, but there's a twist at the end of the book that limits it's usefulness in determining real Thal information.

And, lastly, the Thal Alydon appears in the radio play Whatever Happened to Susan?, in which it is revelaed that many Thals moved to Earth and took up jobs in television and the bureaucracy.
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montypython



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Apparently on Hilary Duff's album Dignity at the beginning of the song Happy you can hear the TARDIS. Another song has the sound of the sonic screwdriver.
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phase5



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Greg wrote:
And, lastly, the Thal Alydon appears in the radio play Whatever Happened to Susan?, in which it is revelaed that many Thals moved to Earth and took up jobs in television and the bureaucracy.


Maybe they could do a "Thal" story in the new series? Yeah right .....

I suppose you have to assume the Thals left Skaro at some point before/after the Daleks took over the planet, developed space flight, and before it was destroyed by the Doctor. Otherwise, "they're all dead Jim".

One of those great mysteries ....
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sulp Niar wrote:
I only just picked this up, despite watching the DVD millions of times... on The Micallef P(r)ogram(me), Series Three, in the sketch about "these foreign invaders are putting the final nail in the coffin of the death of the Australian funeral industry", Shaun Micallef is dressed up as Death... wearing a sign saying "I AM FOREMAN FUNERAL COMPANY". I'm not sure why this relates to An Unearthly Child though... unless it's something to do with the Hand of Omega in Remembrance of the Daleks? If so, Shaun is the biggest Who nerd ever. Haha.


Just rewatched this again and I realised I was entirely wrong - his sign actually says "I AM FOREIGN FUNERAL COMPANY". I hang my head in eternal shame.
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