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| Rose (series 1) |
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36% |
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| New Earth (series 2) |
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9% |
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| Smith and Jones (series 3) |
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54% |
[ 12 ] |
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Greg Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 1742 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: Poll of the Month: July 2007 - Best opening episode |
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Every month we are aiming create a new Poll and publish the results in our club newsletter Data Extract.
We also encourage you to make comment. A selection of the best comments will also be published in Data Extract with the most insightful published comment being eligible to win a prize. (To win a prize you must be a member of the DWCA).
Try to keep your comments concise and spoiler free as possible. (Up to five lines is ideal for editing respoinses for the magazine.)
POLL OF THE MONTH: JULY
Which as been your favourite opening episode in the new series of Dr Who and why?
Decisions about the potentially prize-winning entry will be made based on posts included in this thread to 31 July 2007.
Please note: The Christmas Invasion and The Runaway Bride were made as Christmas specials, and aren't included in this poll despite the ABC showing them immediately before the opening episodes in the new series. |
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Tegan
Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 398 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Smith and Jones easily.
Rose had the problem of needing too much exposition, particularly for the viewers who had no previous Doctor Who viewing. The basic threat story was also a bit incidental. "Hi I'm Rose, Hello I'm The Doctor, while we're chatting lets save the world."
New Earth was really just a setup for future episodes, and not knowing what was coming (obviously) made it look like a filler piece. The resolution to the disease story was just too forced. That and The Doctor, when he was drenched looked like Norman Wisdom.
Smith & Jones introduced Martha quickly, got her family out of the way in short shrift, then got on to an adventure which they spent some time on. And I liked the fact that the Judoon turned out to be basically not the evil monsters you expected them to be.
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ADAMK
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 215 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| While I agree Smith & Jones was a great episode I have picked Rose because, unlike say the TV movie, it pulled off the remarkable feat of making Doctor Who a raging mainstream success after an absence of many years! |
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montypython
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 636 Location: Usually a school computer
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought Rose did a great job introducing the characters. It had a good pace, it was very mysterious, and it had me longing for more, so it gets my vote. Smith & Jones was too fast-paced for me, and I thought it had too much technobabble. New Earth really didn't have a strong plot. |
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Ickabod
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 499 Location: far far away
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: |
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My 7 year old who was 5 atm loved Rose......espically Mickey....when he got eaten by an ottobin.....and she misses Rose and her next fave is Dalek....as she liked the "baby" inside it....so now she thinks all Daleks are girls  |
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SharazJek
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 889 Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Definately 'Rose'. It was a brilliant piece of writing in that it re-introduced the nerdy and often derided character of Doctor Who to the general public and instantly returned it to the status of national icon, the status it so rightly deserves.
It gave something to the classic series fans (Autons), something to the dads and to young girls looking for a adventure in an otherwise mundane life (Billie), a hero everyone could relate to, look up to, fall in love with, but was still mysterious and alien (Eccleston), and it was daring enough to be so different to the original series, while at the same time double-daring to be the same as it always was.
After all the flack RTD seems to get (even from me at times) about his writing, I keep thinking about how downright clever 'Rose' was, on so many different levels. RTD is a genius. A genius with an agenda, but a genius notheless. |
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Ickabod
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 499 Location: far far away
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ^I agree....my Otto bin will never be the same |
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charlie
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 1330 Location: Currarong (never heard of it?! Its near Nowra. What?! Nowra's below The Gong!)
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Well the only one of these eps that Ive seen more than once is New Earth and that didn't make sens and was lrgely unsatisfying. Smith and Jones seemed to be lacking in charm while Rose had lots of nostalgia and old enemy, a new spin on the show, my least favourite doctor and UNIT without the ever so annoying Torchwood. Go Rose |
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Greg Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 1742 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going with Rose.
One of the most important episodes in the series history, in many respects the revival of the show was dependent upon this episode. It had to re-introduce the Doctor to a wide audience and a new incarnation to the waiting fans, establish the TARDIS for a new audience, put in place a change universe for fans, introduce a new companion intended to have equal footing with the Doctor, the recurring supporting cast (Mickey and Jackie), be nostalgic for returning watchers and fresh enough for the new.
In many respects, it was based on An Unearthly Child, introducing the human rgulars, a mystery for resolution, the Doctor and the TARDIS, and travels through time and space.
It was a near impossible task, and while many find flaws in it, it delivered the show to a new generation of viewers and safeguarded its future. If it had failed, it would quite probably been the show's death-knell. It wasn't - it unleashed a peal of victory that is still ringing. |
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Fenric
Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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For me, it would have to be [i]Smith and Jones[/i].
[i]Rose[/i] was too much a setup for later on, meaning that the Auton plot was sidelined just a little too much.
[i]New Earth[/i] had nothing going for it, trying to be humourous and only occassionally passing the test.
[i]Smith and Jones[/i] is so much better - the plot is interesting, the character setup is quicker, etc. |
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Theta Sigma
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 3901
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing wrong with Rose & Smith and Jones but I have decided to go with New Earth. New Earth was a very fun start to the 2006 season and the episode's ending was very poignant. A relaxing way to begin the season considering what is to come for the Doctor and Rose. |
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Greg Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 1742 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, I've been asked to leave this poll running until 5 August.
Look for a new poll (or two) on Monday. |
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uhumanite
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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While Smith and Jones was by far my favourite opener I'm going with Rose.
Russel T Davies introduces us to not only a new companion(and for the first time their family) but also a new Doctor. It's pace and timing and the return of some old foes gives indication of what may be to come yest still without giving much away of the season's future. With slight references to the Time War- The Doctor is once more a figure shrouded in mystery who we once thought we knew. With Doctor Who's absence from television for so long it seems The Doctor has changed not only his face and clothes but has also gained an emotional mask to hide his pain.
This episode was also my introduction to the WHO universe and without it I'd never be the fan I am today. |
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Greg Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 1742 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| uhumanite wrote: | | and for the first time their family |
Not the first time!
Discounting Susan (as she's related to the title character!), our first encounter with a companion's family is in The Evil of the Daleks, which features both new companion Victoria Waterfield and her father, Edward.
Leela's father, Sole, also appears in her debut story, The Face of Evil.
Adric's first story (Full Circle) also included his brother, Varsh.
Nyssa's Father, Tremas, and her step-mother, Kassia, were in her debut story, The Keeper of Traken
Tegan's Aunt Vanessa also appeared in Logopolis, and we later met her cousin Colin Frazer (Arc of Infinity) and grandfather Andrew Verney (The Awakening).
Turlough's final story, Planet of Fire, included his brother Malkon, and new companion Peri's step-father, Howard Foster, also appeared.
Finally, Ace's mother Audrey appears as a baby in The Curse of Fenric.
The real difference between these family members and the Tylers and Joneses of the current series is that (with the exceptione of the Doctor and Tremas's body, taken over by the Master) none of them appeared again. Most died during their only appearance. |
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montypython
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 636 Location: Usually a school computer
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| uhumanite wrote: | | (Rose) was also my introduction to the WHO universe and without it I'd never be the fan I am today. |
Same here. I remember it as if it were yesterday. I was tossing up between Doctor Who and watching the Swans game. I would have gone with the Swans, if it wasn't for my dad's persuasion. Now...
*checks time on Dalek watch, opens up schoolbook with home-made Doctor Who cover, gets clothes from TARDIS wardrobe, checks emails for reviews for Doctor Who fanfic...*
... and so on. |
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Ickabod
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 499 Location: far far away
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| montypython wrote: | | uhumanite wrote: | | (Rose) was also my introduction to the WHO universe and without it I'd never be the fan I am today. |
Same here. I remember it as if it were yesterday. I was tossing up between Doctor Who and watching the Swans game. I would have gone with the Swans, if it wasn't for my dad's persuasion. Now...
*checks time on Dalek watch, opens up schoolbook with home-made Doctor Who cover, gets clothes from TARDIS wardrobe, checks emails for reviews for Doctor Who fanfic...*
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goes to sleep and dreams of the Doctor..... you guys are only babies when it comes to the Whoniverse but welcome to it....it's certainly a great one.....
I know of a couple of fans in their 60's, 50's, 40's (that's me....and many more like me )....heaps in their 30's, 20's, Teens and those under them....mind you my dad's in his 80's and remember's it from the start and he and his Air Force mates used to watch it all the time and my Grandmother who's in her 90's loves the new series.....although she'd be hard-press to remember it all the time but there ya go  |
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Greg Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| This one's locked off now. Our panel of experts will consider who to award the 'view of the month' to and that'll be published in Data Extract as well as here. |
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