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Greg Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 1823 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: 4 - Preferred story format |
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Every month we are aiming create a new Poll and publish the results in our club newsletter Data Extract.
We also encourage you to make comment. A selection of the best comments will also be published in Data Extract with the most insightful published comment being eligible to win a prize. (To win a prize you must be a member of the DWCA).
Try to keep your comments concise and spoiler free as possible. (Up to five lines is ideal for editing responses for the magazine.)
POLL OF THE MONTH: AUGUST
Do you prefer single episode stories or two parters - and why?
Decisions about the potentially prize-winning entry will be made based on posts included in this thread to 31 August 2007.
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Sulp Niar
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 786 Location: Where You Only Live Thirteen Times
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have to go for two parters, although to be honest I have no qualms with the single episode format. My reasons aren't based on notions of how long Doctor Who should be, or that 45 minutes isn't enough time to tell a story - in all honesty, I'm just looking at the evidence. So far, there have been better paced two-parters than one-parters.
For one-parters we might have 'Gridlock' and 'The Girl in the Fireplace' - but for two-parters, the first three alone are incredibly well paced, as is the 'Rise of the Cybermen'/'The Age of Steel' double whammy. 'Human Nature'/'The Family of Blood' is another example - whereas 'Blink', brilliant thought it is, has to include a pointless end montage to make up the numbers.
Perhaps the writers are forced to not put a great number of ideas into one-parters due to perceived lack of time, and then are forced to fill their scripts with moments of illogical padding to compensate - I'm thinking of episodes such as 'New Earth', 'School Reunion' and 'Smith and Jones' here, and, just to be fair and criticise who I named as the best writer, 'Blink' is another example. |
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Tegan
Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 405 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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My preferred format is single episode stories.
My favourite stories have tended to be double episodes.
I think that if there were a majority of stories in a series that were two parters, then some may tend to excessive padding. (As if padding wasn't already excessive).
If the story can be told effectively in a single part episode, then it should really be done that way. The Girl In The Fireplace is a prime example.
Double episodes are best left for the really big story arcs, particularly the return of classic foes, e.g. the Cybermen in Rise of the Cyberman/Age of Steel and series finales. |
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montypython
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 861 Location: My own little world
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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It really depends on the plot. If there isn't a lot to it, you don't want it to drag out. But then again you don't want it to resolve itself too quickly. I found this happened with The Lazarus Experiment.
We have to remember that even the 90 minutes that go into two-parters are short compared to the classic episodes, where as many as eight 25 minute episodes could be included in one story! |
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Tegan
Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 405 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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We have to remember that even the 90 minutes that go into two-parters are short compared to the classic episodes, where as many as eight 25 minute episodes could be included in one story! |
The Dalek's Master Plan ran to 12 episodes, for a 5 hour story. |
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Ickabod
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 552 Location: far far away
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| Tegan wrote: | | montypython wrote: |
We have to remember that even the 90 minutes that go into two-parters are short compared to the classic episodes, where as many as eight 25 minute episodes could be included in one story! |
The Dalek's Master Plan ran to 12 episodes, for a 5 hour story. |
and the war games.....I'm getting too old for cloffhangers....I like 2-parters but am too impatient for them  |
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montypython
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 861 Location: My own little world
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Tegan wrote: | | montypython wrote: |
We have to remember that even the 90 minutes that go into two-parters are short compared to the classic episodes, where as many as eight 25 minute episodes could be included in one story! |
The Dalek's Master Plan ran to 12 episodes, for a 5 hour story. |
Ah. I've noticed that the old Dalek episodes have been the longest. |
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SharazJek
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I find I'm pretty old school when it comes to this question.
I prefer the longer, slower paced stories. |
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uhumanite
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a fan of both
Love a scary cliffhanger but I have the patience of a heroin addict. |
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charlie
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 1385 Location: Currarong (never heard of it?! Its near Nowra. What?! Nowra's below The Gong!)
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say two-parter. Why? Well I'm going to say because that's what DW should be.
In the classics they used to have a primary half hour of mystery over what is going on and then the rest of the story reveals itself and the action all happened in the final ep. The mystery was what intrigued me about DW. Back when the Doctor didn't know every detail of everything that ever happened to everyone in the universe, they were the good episodes. Who remembers the Caves of Androzani, the Tomb of the Cybermen, Ghostlight, the Revelation of the Daleks, the Daleks? They were great stories with great intrigue. |
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montypython
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 861 Location: My own little world
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| charlie wrote: | | Who remembers the Caves of Androzani, the Tomb of the Cybermen, Ghostlight, the Revelation of the Daleks, the Daleks? They were great stories with great intrigue. |
I saw The Daleks, and it was great, but I thought it dragged on a bit. Then again, maybe that's because I was slowly watching it on YouTube, only a few parts a day... but still, I don't think I'd have the patience to sit through the same story for 8 weeks or whatever. |
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SharazJek
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| uhumanite wrote: | I'm a fan of both
Love a scary cliffhanger but I have the patience of a heroin addict. |
This is the trouble with the younger generation today. They want to feel the rush NOW!!
Good grief I sound like my grandpa. |
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Chickmacgyver
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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This is a very hard question to answer! I would have to say it is very plot specific, e.g. Blink and 42 works best in a single episode format. However, to tell a more complicated tale you have to do it over two or even three episodes. I do tend to enjoy two parters, but you need to have a good tale to make them work well, e.g. Human Nature/The Family of Blood, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. Without a good plot and a sustained pace you end up with something like the recent dalek story.
Regards, Izzy |
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Sulp Niar
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 786 Location: Where You Only Live Thirteen Times
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| SharazJek wrote: | | uhumanite wrote: | I'm a fan of both
Love a scary cliffhanger but I have the patience of a heroin addict. |
This is the trouble with the younger generation today. They want to feel the rush NOW!!
Good grief I sound like my grandpa. |
That is the trouble with the older generation today. They had heroin and didn't need TV to be FASTER!! |
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KnottyEmily
Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I prefer the stories that aren't told at 1000 miles an hour, whether they're 1 or 2 parters. For 1 parters, i think The Girl In The Fireplace wins, and all of the 2 parts are well paced |
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Kaileena
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 9 Location: The TARDIS, currently in Brookton.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Meh, I'm not fussed. I have the patience of a stoner! lol.
I like TBCs (to be continueds) because they leave you hanging for the next eppy, making sure you want to watch it. I find it a very appealing marketing technique. Two parters are great for stories where you just can't fit all the best parts into one episode, because some 1 parters just seem to be missing something. I'm really not a fussy person. |
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Kaileena
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 9 Location: The TARDIS, currently in Brookton.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: WELCOME NEWBIE! |
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PS. Welcome KnottyEmily!!!!
I love your, "Am I Bovvered?" avii, 2 cute, darling!
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Lungbarrow
Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 14 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Although I love the format of the new series and one or two part stories suit it's fast pace I still love watching the classic episodes that ran for four episodes or more. |
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