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ADAMK



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Series 4 casting update - Warning monster spoiler! Reply with quote

As reported on the official BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2007/10/02/49473.shtml

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Christopher Ryan, best known for playing super-cool Mike in the classic comedy series The Young Ones, is set for a guest-starring role in an upcoming Series Four adventure.

Ryan will play a Sontaran leader in the story, due to begin filming in the next few weeks.

"I'm absolutely delighted to be appearing in this new Doctor Who," Chris revealed. "The last time I appeared in Doctor Who was in 1986, Colin Baker was the Doctor and I was still a Young One."

The story in question was the Trial Of A Time Lord, where Chris starred as the slug-like Mentor Kiv alongside Trevor Laird, who played Martha's dad in 2007.

If you know your Who lore, the Sontarans will need no introduction. If you're a newer viewer, however, you may not know that the Sontarans are amongst the greatest villains from the classic series of Doctor Who.

A military, warlike species, able to clone vast armies of themselves, the Sontarans are locked into an eternal struggle with their enemies the Rutans.
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meglos



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't wait. You have to love the Sontarans Smile . They were one of my favourites from the "Classic" series.
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dave



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope they get them right. No tall, wobbly headed Sontarans ala The Two Doctors, but something closer to the original. And they should be short; they're from a high-gravity world after all. Considering who they've cast as the leader, it seems they've got that much right so far.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Series 4 casting update - Warning monster spoiler! Reply with quote

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A military, warlike species, able to clone vast armies of themselves, the Sontarans are locked into an eternal struggle with their enemies the Rutans.


Unless we actually see this, and see it done well, I'm afraid I'm not very interested at all in seeing the Sontarans come back. They just don't really interest me beyond what we've already seen, whereas with the Cybermen, Daleks and others I can still see the untapped potential. There is with the Sontarans, but that bit above is about it. And if they don't show it... *yawn*
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As routine as it seems to be now to resurrect one old alien species per new season, I gotta say I'm itching to see the Sontarans again. Hell, how about a mother-of-all-battles episode with a bunch of Rutans (and think how much the FX on those beasties could improve them - remember the luminous plastic ball covered in horsehair from Fang Rock???)
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Davros



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Series 4 casting update - Warning monster spoiler! Reply with quote

Sulp Niar wrote:
I'm afraid I'm not very interested at all in seeing the Sontarans come back. They just don't really interest me beyond what we've already seen, whereas with the Cybermen, Daleks and others I can still see the untapped potential.
I tend to disagree because out of three from memory, the Sontarans had more vocal input ...the stories were much better. As much as I love seeing a Dalek, they need a break! ...how much more can they do besides hover up stairs, scream "Exterminate, you will obey" and kill Smile

Bring them back in (if it happens) Season 6!!
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Series 4 casting update - Warning monster spoiler! Reply with quote

Davros wrote:
Sulp Niar wrote:
I'm afraid I'm not very interested at all in seeing the Sontarans come back. They just don't really interest me beyond what we've already seen, whereas with the Cybermen, Daleks and others I can still see the untapped potential.
I tend to disagree because out of three from memory, the Sontarans had more vocal input ...the stories were much better. As much as I love seeing a Dalek, they need a break! ...how much more can they do besides hover up stairs, scream "Exterminate, you will obey" and kill Smile

Bring them back in (if it happens) Season 6!!


No, no, I didn't mean that... I just meant that there is that potential to be unlocked, of them being huge battle-fighting warrior guys, and unless we see that or see something directly, directly related, I'm not interested. 'The Sontaran Experiment' had a guy doing tests, 'The Time Warrior' had a guy who crash landed and wanted to get back to the battle... well so do I! Speckled Jim basically said what I wanted to see... obviously, I don't want it to be a dumb shoot-em-up, but the best portrayals of war never are. I don't want to see, you know, a Sontaran force land on Earth and infiltrate the government ala the Slitheen and the Master, or something similar... give them a different edge, or simply use a new monster. They just need to justify bringing them back.

(That said, I'm a big fan of 'Gridlock', and look what that does to the Macra. Hmm...)

And yeah, the Daleks do need a break. I don't want them back either.
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SharazJek



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Series 4 casting update - Warning monster spoiler! Reply with quote

Sulp Niar wrote:
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A military, warlike species, able to clone vast armies of themselves, the Sontarans are locked into an eternal struggle with their enemies the Rutans.


Unless we actually see this, and see it done well, I'm afraid I'm not very interested at all in seeing the Sontarans come back. They just don't really interest me beyond what we've already seen, whereas with the Cybermen, Daleks and others I can still see the untapped potential. There is with the Sontarans, but that bit above is about it. And if they don't show it... *yawn*


Yes, bringing them back as they were in the original series does seem a tad boring, but the Sontarans do have some dramatic potential. If you've heard the BBV audios featuring them, they present some interesting different takes on the potato heads.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't - listening to those audios has been on my to-do-list for ages but I've never gotten around to it. Maybe because BBV audios are so hard to bloody get.
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Ickabod



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish they'd bring back The Rani.....she was cool...or maybe Lucy could be her in disguise Cool
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Davros



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ickabod wrote:
I wish they'd bring back The Rani.....she was cool...or maybe Lucy could be her in disguise Cool
A pity we didn't see more of The Rani, I believe she only did two stories, I think she would have made another great ongoing Nemesis of the Doctor ...bring her back, whether it's Kate O'Mara or someone else? We need more villianous Timelords and I'm sure the Master will return, somewhere, somehow in Time & Space to act out his revenge on the Doc Smile
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Greg
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm already on record as wanting Lucy Saxon to be the Master - the Master essence in the ring, and the body as his vehicle.
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Ickabod



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
I'm already on record as wanting Lucy Saxon to be the Master - the Master essence in the ring, and the body as his vehicle.


Now that would be cool...or use Lucy's body till he got a new one
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Ickabod



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Titantic do you think The Doctor will bump into Jack and Rose?
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Tegan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been said before, and bears repeating.

Sontarens are the silliest race in the universe.
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the Sontarans will look like upon their upcoming return in the episode that will see Martha's return to the parent Doctor Who series after appearing in Torchwood:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7076705.stm
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Tegan



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my! Not only silly, but... vertically challenged as well.

Oh dear me, this won't do at all. No.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit, they look a little bit plastic-y. Like Action Man toys (though I reckon that's the ideal the Sontarans would aspire to!).

That said, the Cybermen looked fairly rubbish in the lead-up to Series Two before seeing them in action, so perhaps the Sontarans too will look better in action. In ACTION, yes - sorry to repeat myself, but it needs restating.
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FredDag



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having seem the "new" Sontarans for the first time today I must admit they are a bit disappointing. It looks like they've made the suite way too big for the occupant. Half the Sontaran's face is missing because of the next thing. I hope it's going to have an adjustment or two before filming proper. Maybe the publicity shot has the wrong guy for the wrong suite in it. I don't mind the body looking suite indicating that the Sontarans are beefy muscley little buggers. As Sulf Niar said, maybe they'll look better in Action. I wonder if the Daleks will make an appearance for season 4?
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Noni



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having only just been introduced to the Sontarans (I bought the Time Warrior the other day and chose to study it rather than for my Legals Studies HSC exam!) I have to say, I prefer the original.

Although it did make my sister laugh- we now also refer to them as "the poo-heads"! (And when you have a sister like mine, anything that makes her laugh is a treasured rarity!)
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