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Trial of a Time Lord (Parts 13-14): The Ultimate Foe

 
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ADAMK



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Trial of a Time Lord (Parts 13-14): The Ultimate Foe Reply with quote

What do people make of this (Season 23) 1986 story written by Robert Holmes & Pip & Jane Baker?

This is the analysis from the official BBC website (WARNING! SPOILERS): http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/trialtimelord4/analysis.shtml
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ADAMK



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor old Colin! Fancy getting "Carrot Juice" as your final lines as the Doctor!!
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meglos



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't get to see Colin's final episode because I turned over to watch the Twenty 20 Cricket Smile
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the penguin



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how zat colins dead yey yey he was terrible in trial Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although credited solely to Robert Holmes much of what was shown in Part 13 was handled by Eric Saward who is credited for the last time as script editor. His name had been absent for Terror of the Vervoids after quitting as script editor following a feud with Producer John Nathan-Turner. The circumstances of Saward's departure is reminiscent to that of The Prisoner when the script editor and co-creator of that series George Markstein left after a dispute with star/creator/executive producer Patrick McGoohan.

Despite the long break I have to say I did not really miss Colin at all.

The Master brings Mel to the trial which meant as David J Howe and Mark Stammers wrote in their Companions book that it "is debatable, therefore whether this was Mel's 'first' - chronologically for the Doctor - meeting with him, and that the Master actually made the fact of the Doctor's future travels with Mel happen in the first place."

Amazingly at the time no one knew that this was going to be Colin's last story since James Bree (the Keeper of the Matrix) had also appeared in Pat's formal swansong The War Games as the Secuity Chief.

The Valeyard is revealed to be the Doctor, a revelation I am sure the audience at the time of the original airings was not expecting.
The Master explains that Peri's apparent death in Mindwarp was faked and that she is now Queen to Yrcanos. Obviously no one had thought through the circumstances of her departure. No one wanted to marry Peri off in the first place and she is yet another companion who travelled a considerable time with the Doctor only to leave him to marry someone she has just met. (She does not look very happy in the brief shot of her with Yrcanos in Part 14.) Not everyone was satisfy with this explanation of her departure as Howe and Stammers wrote in Companions:
"Left the Doctor because: she was either a) married to King Yrcanos or b) killed when her brain was overprinted with that of the Mentor Sil (sic; it was actually Kiv not Sil) It depends on what you believe."

Holmes had originally been assigned to write Part 14 the concluding episode but fell seriously ill after completing Part 13 and subsequently died on May 26 1986. So that task was eventually given to Pip and Jane Baker.
The quills turns out to be bombs. Go to show that the pen is mighier than the sword.
Geoffrey Hughes later to be a regular on Keeping Up Appearances & Hearbeat gets to play the Doctor as it is revealed that his character Popplewick was the Valeyard in disguise.

In the Colin Baker Years, Colin says he was often asked whether he prefer Nicola or Bonnie on the show. He says that he did not have enough time with Bonnie to make a proper judgement on.
No one knew that this was going to be Colin's last story as he was told that the BBC was bringing back Doctor Who for 1987 but not with him due to a new policy limiting actors three years to play the Doctor.

As far as the audience at the time was concerned Mel had continued to travel with the Doctor immediately after the Trial but the audios and books worked things out differently. For the untelevised adventures the Sixth Doctor had returned Mel in her own time and would not "properly" meet her until much later on in his life. As well as trying to fix the loose ends caused by the plotting of the Trial it is also a transparent way to expand the life of the Sixth Doctor much longer than what was shown on television.

Lynda Bellingham (the Inquisitor) looks like Penelope Wilton. Lynda will later be in At Home With The Braithwaites featuring Peter Davison. She was also a regular in Peter's old show All Creatures Great And Small.

Time and The Rani beginning today starts off season 24. Funny thing about the timing is that the classic series appears to end with Survival instead of the TV Movie on February 3 which is 24 days from now!
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Amano07



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the penguin

my god shrink that bloody avatar!!!!!!!!
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Greg
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theta Sigma wrote:
The Master explains that Peri's apparent death in Mindwarp was faked and that she is now Queen to Yrcanos. Obviously no one had thought through the circumstances of her departure. No one wanted to marry Peri off in the first place and she is yet another companion who travelled a considerable time with the Doctor only to leave him to marry someone she has just met. (She does not look very happy in the brief shot of her with Yrcanos in Part 14.) Not everyone was satisfy with this explanation of her departure as Howe and Stammers wrote in Companions:
"Left the Doctor because: she was either a) married to King Yrcanos or b) killed when her brain was overprinted with that of the Mentor Sil (sic; it was actually Kiv not Sil) It depends on what you believe."


The Master's explanation is generally believed by people who have written about what happens to Peri after her departure.

In the novelisation of Mindwarp, an epilogue reveals that Peri and Yrcanos ended up on Earth, with Peri being the manager of Yrcanos' new career in wrestling.

In a Brief Encounter in DWM, the 7th Doctor visuited Peri in Yrcanos' court, where hje recived a frosty reception from a woman now very much at home as a queen and with multiple children.

In the novel Bad Therapy, Peri is indeed living as Yrcanos' queen but with a great degree of resentment. She manages to escape from her forced exile and return to Earth, telling the Doctor exactly what she thought of him leaving her in 25 years exile on an alien world, obliged to marry in order to live.

In the audio Her Final Flight, the 6th Doctor encounters a post-Mindwarp Peri on another world...

Oh, and Lynda Bellingham has returned to her role as the Inquisitor (noiw with a name: she's Inquisitor Darkel) in Big Finish's Gallifrey series. She played a significant role in the first series, a crucial role in the second, and is set to be at least important in the third series due out this year.
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charlie



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this one was much better than all the rest of colins era and I thouroughly enjoyed it. Although I would have liked for him to regenerate.
Oh well.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I thought it was really, really good. The ending was a bit contrived, but the fact that it was only two episodes, Colin at the top of his game (whether this is very high is debatable, I guess) and the music was strangely just right (despite being written by the stupid Dominic Glynn of ToaTL Theme Tune fame). The Valeyard was a bit too cackly and Master-esque at the end, and in fact his plan was a bit convoluted - it would have worked better if his motivation was JUST to kill the Doctor.

Having not seen this before, the hands in the barrel and mud were pretty creepy, and it was all pretty psychadelic. Although the beach scene, while well edited, was annoying.

If it wasn't for Mel, this would be top stuff.
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SharazJek



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the Fantasy Factory/matrix scenes to be pretty eerie.
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Sulp Niar



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly: as the Empty Child (and this) proved, nothing is scarier than possessed children (the children singing in the background scared me to the bone).
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